Who Is Kenny Aronoff And Who Hasn't He Played Drums For?

Tuesday, June 13th

There is a very good chance you've heard Kenny Aaronoff's drumming.  If you go to his website you'll find this astounding fact: He has played on over 60 Grammy-nominated recordings, with 1,300 gold, platinum, and diamond certified records and sold over 300 million records worldwide.  If you have a few minutes(or hours) you will also find a list of artists he's played with live and in the studio.  I'll just name a few here: Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Seger, Ray Charles, John Fogerty, Smashing Pumpkins, Katy Perry, Johnny Cash, Bon Jovi, Cinderella, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and on and on and on...

You may have first heard his playing on a little song from some guy from Indiana named John Cougar:

Video of John Mellencamp - Jack & Diane

Yeah, that's him at the 2:30 mark kicking it into the stratosphere.  

He's done pretty well for a local boy from Stockbridge, MA who graduated from The University Of Massachusetts.  Now you can see him in a new documentary about unsung session musicians called Hired Gun.  It will be shown in theaters on June 29 and you can find a screening near you here.

Check out the trailer:

Video of HIRED GUN | Trailer

I had a chance to talk to Kenny on a rare day at home in California.  We discuss his upbrining in Western Massachusetts and what inspired him to take up the drums, what his keys to staying succesful are, and who was the most difficult artist he's had to work with.  Before you listen there is a NSFW warning.  Kenny swears like a motherf****!

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So let lacrosse and soccer gear until we everybody else to be to a didn't say it honestly did what does it do AM. There will be a vote on eager are heard in a dumpster. The you know everybody should do more than me and what he's started to land right. Yeah. I know. The that is that is funny in your book you talk about Bellic sending him backstage into rooms full of people and. Yeah yeah yeah the Brett that would that would influence. On our world stage there georgians are we ordered a mellow kid sold out in DC concert in India are there enough. You will corrupt and did you can you're not. My blood goes well our career without the majority. And most papers you ever. Are. At the border. Some girl I'm on video watching tool in the actual. And you know made art argued simpler makes the people volume. You know the sugar from a policy that Zia. So all our logo. I I heard it before the show as well love bald like your norm. Or. Book yeah I sure hope so. Stay. Here. You almighty god. 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That was my life you just never figured that Goer in ground I had to go sit in the actual to a LA to New York. I'll read them all we see another. Well well it's 6 o'clock I was recording while rehearsing with Jon Fogarty and things first I'm used to news. Craig catalog at there I would get hard drives. There you know I have power to another studio was more reward bitten on the screens in big huge potential artist. A ball that you and was. King. But. Four balloon 7-Eleven bid from midnight to five more recorded with a bullet still. And then on the weekend part of all bundled. Out that was just you know. You know. Another. Day Jenny you're sort of we drove search scheduler but. How long. I mean are you is that your schedule still like now or how how long did you keep that up because I know you you'd play with someone and then on your off these you would fly somewhere. Yeah AM and how long or how do you maintain. As a drummer which is you know which is very fizz yeah now. Well. Well. 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I want my first you have that you and it works best you can and we'll work. You would build. You have ordered wearing regular street and I was afraid to fail I was afraid your. To those rebel because if you later among these Asian questioned not that good. I'm not that good what practical medal and I literally replied I just spent my whole life trying to get. Like to be great and I have to say a lot of these greens I wanna be put up a little like trying to be. It's great that can be is an idea is. I just let jacket and went to global war is about to ensure that I was like oh god. Can you do this big android. Yeah. Got an early things from the border is strong so that's still on the that's social on the radio via Perry in 35 U I everywhere now all part of the illusion that I knew that was gonna happen. And I bet I'm done. State cooling. Do you practice to be. The great at something like that simple will be on radio I didn't know I was really complex and really. 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So the arc is in he was. But that's about it that's it now. That's right place right time and right might I've made I think maybe I made it acted immediately edited. Everybody who is anybody. It's good you know you'll hire somebody that the data as opposed to the interview and why oh why. Well I'd made. My destiny by an overlord unit check out this guy security or is battered as low flow. And it was because I built a reputation. Of hard work. You mean hard work and pushing it pushing everybody that I can share. Thought may might opportunity. And let them say it. And you can you give me an example I mean Yuri gave the example of trying to get in the via sellable when you really. Really like guys here ask him like you had a job. Or you were playing lives and I was like holy (%expletive) I'm really a blocking opera house. Well yeah what awards after five weeks here and to jar. Gone blurred John Mellencamp took go to bed. I would like. Have these guys look like me. 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So so it can and I'm guessing then because my next question to you would was going to be. Well who's the most difficult person you've ever work where and how is gonna guess Bob Dylan because. I've seen Bob Dylan deal with his band. And he's pretty tough on a book for when you're just told me I'm guessing it's it's going to be Mellencamp. It looked up. Well at the Bob Dylan heard I reckon Bob Dylan. That I did that under the red guy. And out. I'm Bob May give them that they're within thirty days we're seeing here by Jimmy bought they've currently. Was. And but it was done. Jim Colbert country both are at least two jury comes in catching and shall lecture will. Take any popular and I should be that would be overly. Are we ever talks and that. Four days of making the record the four days we were spread out over there before. And it was like every day is different group of guys that we vote on the record. And I every song. They've got Bob and should be in look argue that he's so. There are talk about it and communication to a big pillow people. Thousand that. An example communicating by not saying anything one I did then don't do that thought he'd argued a bad mood by. There are only so. What animals in. A jar was because we're like Brothers. So I was trying to get. And very demanding that put them down for a dessert ride and prop manager out like you know (%expletive) or get out the crime. Part of that are you guys like me or. We're good enough. That pushed me so yeah jealous but he thought the war was put. The whole situation we'll talk about where I was that might guide you go to that. It didn't form. Trying to clean my Chichi Bryant can write my coaches. That you know trying to beat my dad I will. I would have liked go do it. It was always fun but you know. And that's what made me Gloria now what. Like has there been an artist or band that has asked to work reviewing new. You had to say now and not because of scheduling because your Connelly I don't know if I wanna get involved with us. You can play real hard play with everybody it's on the weather legends or whatever new brand new the business or where you play with everybody. Has there been anyone like that. Well never say though that anybody. Bob. I've made choice is not to be in this band member and that's bad because since that debt and is a better situation remain all of now I get well in the their territory that was once well mentioned it. Where I didn't really you know put my regular. Look. You can talk other people like it can't talk to me like that I would make your records and tour what you had diaper. I got a little more about the business and you do and you try to talk me got a well let's back which you worked. Wouldn't musician. You don't work I don't work for you. Your your tour manager. You can be replaced right most likely can't be replaced. 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Are there. Doug Doug Morris I imagine. I'd work with them lies. But I have a good feeling it's all about Katy Perry. You know what it argued that note as a matter where that package you know. Sort of between our managers are there and it it was sold out of reach parents. That person. Well or her sister. It is to let her and talking to report report seven. And that person start to feel like they're more important than the brand and lately been here from the artist. You know they see the interaction between nourishment band and and they may. And there are more important. Because they're making decisions and they're telling the bad what to do so they are to do more important. And actually you know works also. Everybody in a bad like dentist disposable. But you know actually kick Charlie Watts out of the vote goes to its earlier or is double themselves along with the other debate. That's a big difference right there at oak musicians are way more disposable. 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What that was a little bit of a different by the way because they are going to a lot of thought I was inside there but you know tries and well respected me saying do as well where. They'd do who what was. And and baiting. Treated me aboard in the band aid you know treated well problem in the. We're Ross does it that's your your your valuable commodity. I mean you are someone who gets he was like guaranteed to get the job done you're like the you know so it's yeah what is it that they are your rock star. Like among the rock stars to me. Like a lot of people may not know who you are what you look like they've heard your music. But among the the people you play with there everybody like seize the want you to play. Wear them so you're like the rock star inside the rock star community there. Your car in a minute not bragging at the Nazis. Had a journal it's time now. Esquire berg in this great article. Off and and the the title genius. I would item like my new book straight. And it went like their most famous drum you'd never heard. I can't thank. What you believe it would take. The most famous on the you've never heard of everybody knows me big audience at Iowa the glasses are we at Iowa you have got. But I'm not like. Like favorite like the die hard aren't in the know bet that they are changing. I mean do I will call talking at the hired gun movies right. Right and all the stuff you're talking about the traveling in the and fighting and the dealing with managers all that's covered in hired gun and there's so many people I think Roz on he put it best in the trailers so there's like twenty people. Move like mid all the music you're hearing on the radio. You know there and. While the that we're here to our people make it and that's what he's saying. Normally but gorgeous wife just probably eight and close. A lot a lot like you're lucky men so. I am looking at. Hello my third marriage folks there I go. Well what exactly perfect and. Well like like everything else you talking about you had to try multiple times like with the ES oh right and it's not about luck it's about you know. It's about discipline in the. What about it. The book of you never all of Libyan refugees in fact my dad mom. In my dad are here the ball real yet if those samples of course you know. Didn't move just a cup is that he smokes and we'll put it. Well mother or my dad here's what are we want to go bought another drawn in new York and an adult male. And I'm the chairman and shut all three leaders (%expletive) all we have it negotiate well. I'll never forget what the chef but he goes. Would try out of London elected obviously know what you're doing music and it shouldn't notice sub a little bit more before you have all the multiple relations. They do these things that you rocket do. He busted out there a nice idea yeah and I. Yeah. I don't all a little departed well it sure that I was mature and are sure you know that. 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You know there's there's fights you know there is great Lola and stuff like that so. Yeah and and you've had plenty of practice that there at two. Yeah. Is it brand but it doesn't get ramped up here soon but. Was left who's left that you haven't played with. That you really would like to. Well our. At the band I would like to do. That made this is web based but I would love to go but I played them about the gourd corps would stay. We jet back well and and on base could be called true. Most stings a pretty good as Butler and you know. Oh that's right let's say you don't need any base yet he says he's pretty dead if of course they would be the bad. Wow. Eight and got back we don't hear anybody else that would be an easing. Soviet days and I'm jet back. So bad. That when he plays were the singer I don't even look at. I mean every in your back those. There is so brilliant. I'm so blown away by everything he goes to simplicity. This whole situation. Well that bet that would be bad. 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Intense and there are being in the party wouldn't need that they've heard me Ed Crockett. Newburgh. And they're well. I'm pretty good pretty good for kids from stock average. Yeah. There are UMass grad pretty good men and Purdue get all right well Kenny aired off thank you very much for taking the time see. Seek any hired gun. Coming out in theaters on June 29. And I'll get that information appear on the site and then also sex drums in rock general. It's a great read a lot of great stories and then you've got another book coming out anything go via. There's the bell and 2018. Probably and that book is you're gonna be more self help book and how to help people. You know get improve the life no matter whether. Right and now I so I notice you're at hone your home now I'm assuming. I'm home an Albert all the I'll be writing my book and a session coming up I'm gonna go to Europe and we albeit a the sonic blue pushing loved playing chose to go to the band at their kitchen. 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