Boston Sports 101 - Wade Boggs vs Margo Adams

Wednesday, August 23rd

On this edition we look back on at the "most notorious woman in America" in 1989 Margo Adams and her relationship with Wade Boggs.


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Yes back. Boston sports Ottawa fiesta model with a short here at WEE. I podcast radio network. And boy I'd say so I'm excited to be back in the air because as much fun as we had doing our hundred greatest guy in movies and wrapping that up. I am hesitant to back the sports and I'm here at my buddy George kept George orient without gangsters like its objective of memo buck. We're having a little fees here chicken and beer is where that's kind of a Boston thing these days but we're gonna. Be joined this week by the doctors Abbas of their bills bureaus. Of the Boston Herald real OBS on Twitter a billionaire. Yes I am. I'm look at nick thirty year old porn but you'll see the line a few. That's right we and in a righty is of that because. We're gonna go ahead and preface is that most of our our shows are not exactly kid friendly but this one has to do to be specifically non differently because we're going to talk about the I would have maybe the biggest scandal. In the history of Boston sports. What happened when Wade Boggs. Went head to head against Margo Adams the woman he'd had an affair with for four years back and then in the late eighties but the biggest real scandal not the flake. Yeah real legitimate every bit that we're talking when the national right national headlines. And out again at updated weighted ball would be fully depleted. I think there were a few times to oats bill what are what's your biggest memory of of wade explained he's you said you were covering Tillis we talked earlier that you have been covering the Sox around the time this happened. But is is this game until the first in the pops in your head when it comes the way to Munich as a whole Famer. Well Albion as cynical. To it that bad that that I am. The name Michael Adams. It's always the first thing that popped. Up and I think it was because of the fact that I was in my early twenties when this happened. And I wouldn't you know sort of starting out on as a reporter and journalist. And this story at that time this was pre Internet. Pre DMV pre Twitter preempting Graham. I mean that they would use. A literal bombshell I mean it came I don't know. I blame when the accusations. Came up in a lawsuit was filed. And it was out there but when Matt what went wedged it bad interview if pat. A mile man bought penthouse just the just of that interview and to go in return but it's true I mean. I Aaron and if I could believe. All leadership. I cannot believe and I mean I couldn't believe it but it was a bit hard it is you. It a real interest in look at how things are so different now because. I read their that they interviews from from the old Asians and excitement. And it any team ballot so had it antiquated in just weighing in. In outrage desolate CP geo image you let them and they don't know we keep using whatever. Which is the story itself that this woman was traveling with the team. For however many years. When it when it occurred it was so so you've been now equipped to beat that would be a story today it is somebody broke bread with. We traveled with the team led and I mean nobody would even care. Well and I'm and people actually cared about this I mean yeah and out all (%expletive) aside admit it was huge. Well let's let's add up for a second because bill. You remember when an incredible player bonds was in and capacities that means that what type of flattening. Barnes is pretty much regarded as the best hitter in baseball. Through most of the eighties yet come to an enemy given Gwynn. Troubling best stuff on base hit rock is roomy and yet the twelve time all star. Two time gold glove awards both with the Yankees which was odd. Eight time silver slugger that goes the best Heather at that per position. By that time AL batting champion 83 and 85 through 1988. As a kid I was at that perfect age for Wade Boggs. If the player. He was he he was at the baseball corridor from me he was the guy would go lefty swinging in. And now OB. I remember that 87 season where he was always talking about about this he had a contract year you decide to hit 24 home Wednesday years he'd never hit homer. Even Hitler in the all star game night here it was a it was a big story that when your when he went. He's be back to back with Bo Jackson yeah he went yard it was unbelievable but. Yeah it from him just be in the not even a spray hitter he he'd go opposite field to pull the ball he was just that an amazing hither. Regret this some stat here he went. I think he went 72 multi hit games in 1985 which is just sick I'm bully and so it's a prep is this what the reason why we're we're talking about it. Is that you know the last couple weeks we've had to deal with this Packers Lee. David Price. Viewed in this this incident that happened and honestly be yours because the slow summer this losing in the but it's become is this much bigger story than you know you might originally make out to be. And frogs you know got a hold of dishonesty or maybe it was the other way around and and globe article talks about. Boggs actually says dishonesty David Price is no idea when I went through talking about his time in Boston in the eighties with this whole Margot at scandal. He says yup that's it. You know yeah being the big phrase that act in Chris said to price and they say is try to minimize who's back there. So you know what we're gonna deal right now we're real is this entire incident as at as at as it unfolded. So we have. Start here at this kind of made news in 88 summer mediate. When. Lawsuits were filed embargo atoms. Palimony lawsuits. Bill whoever how to exactly went down in in summer mediate the remembered being some it was overshadowing panic contending team. All bet then it was the tumultuous. This at least because. You know they get they brought in Joseph Morgan. And Iran are would you 24 straight or mad or Africa. So so that waste there you know. I mean. Again the NFL that you always was one year while not even if he's been removed from it players' strike. So. There was no there was no holes 151000. People patriot street if I I covered great history and yet been made it feel that your. It was probably 26 people including depressed. Watching the team at Bryant College. Humility as NFL with not. The NFL would not on anyone's radar. So this would be story. June July and August what does that when the Red Sox went on it here at the Joseph Morgan took over the team so the box out. What kind of a side jail at that point because the team was playing great. You know two years earlier they had almost won the World Series of they had won the World Series B you know when terrorists was delighted BP there were watching. So. You know it it's like it he was good and they would be story in the it will winning at hole. So go out front when it was triggered blasts. Right right and a lot. And yet and still. A lawsuit you know would just if you had added to be excitement. Of what we're pretty much a baseball only so. Right and it was in an ad and it is good the Celtics were in Bert still has paid eight. You know the Red Sox and baseball or so huge and Morgan magic to get one by storm. There were two years removed from losing that World Series for the Mets. You know the kind of crushing heartbreak of that hadn't quite. Crystallized yet it was still. We've still got a rod expressed would be worth. So excited about a team still the it was optimism that they can you backed. Baseball is also probably the baseball world at that point Canseco was probably that all up it can sic was the biggest star in the world that point I think too that's right and so. Yet not what I question I mean it was it was a super power and and the Red Sox were you know the only story in town. And yeah I mean like you said it was. You know that it would still lit like. Like polish at the team can win. Pat indignity can one World Series you know they got to get back at me it was it was pretty much they 86 team. Let you know more. Mike Green well I think I don't know Lester and a little less human rights record but you know that a direct that the picture it was pretty much intact. For the most part. I'm so it was the Cold War and if you like Clemens who was like god what a joy to watch decked out. Yeah and then and you bought right then anytime you read what people liked it and and Roger Clemens in their prime on the same team that green in good. Yeah no exactly and an 88 they go and get swept by the Oakland a's in the ALCS and then to narrow their out of it this that the tension start to shift. A little to what's going on with this this by scandal and it's not so much that there was every day news it was just more like how was is gonna continue to unfold because. As we'll talk about later app Margo Adams ends up going on that Donahue show. There ends up being talks of a book. And then it's released she's gonna be giving interview to Playboy magazine. And we'll find out the scene of the offering up so much more but let's go ahead. And look back now at April of 1989 this is actually penthouse magazine April 89 which means it really came out probably the end of February early march in how those things in the fall. So inside the magazine says penthouse at the time boasts a worldwide sales of estimated five million dollars we read the articles I don't think. I don't think anywhere and never noticed that that might. But. But I inserted that make an economy that money now. But there was they app profile article but could called designated swinger. I had David. Excuse me. Which at the time it it it made sense he he won five straight batting titles or something ridiculously well he had just broken record to understate it 200 it's 200 hits for six straight seasons and it's not in Cobb had done. So just to set the scene that's we're looking yet but what. Schumacher goes on to explain. Is basically timeline of events starting in 2000. To 1984. In the beginning of the season if you actually go look at their season they start the season on the road in California at the angels out in time. And that's where Boggs would meet its when he -- Margo Adams. They met and Anaheim club called crackers with temperatures probably not there anymore. Com there's a pet she Agassi was kind of approached weblogs or blogs exist around and she noticed win. Yet let it crackers at LAD. That was probably a pretty easy transition. On the the but Susan Wade Boggs ward yeah I would see it meant Boggs initially she noticed that he had a ring atmosphere and I guess. Barbs. His friend Eddie Jericho to the utility infielder at the time that about 240. Had. In an op with Margo adams' brand and the two of them with Adams we're gonna go swear jerks of hate to point to whoever. You want to go witness and is like 1:30 in the morning and go out beyond the club into Xbox. Next and she's she's blogs though and get out club he's not wearing his ring and it CB goes towards a Ringo in his line was I didn't think they'd girl with like you would wanna go with a guy wearing a wedding. What's funny about the articles that in initially right here. They named dropped them suckers who was what's the with the Sox time. As alien even as it bring up ex actor sleek and it would apply he'd do anything wrong. Ali say is that he came by the table sickened had to when they went back to his room by himself but it's funny to think. Packers Lee was the closer. In 1988 yeah with the a's he had just on the World Series in game one the Gibson home run it into the Gibson home run. So it's just funny to see having name drop and of course Boggs making this comment randomly X name gets its prodded as the sure that. Yeah yeah and you know you can reminded me that adamant in his ability to be moved HBO movie about the rat pack in. And then a movie Franken goes up too little power would do growth in Asia would be and newsroom district question now. And equitably Dino he just went to bed with a glass of milk. That athletic out of it when I read that you know what yeah it can exploit even thirty years in advance. Like a Marco and Irish my regular below what it is pretty hit it I did I. I pretty as that was though it was a better to be mentioned and having left the situation not mentioned again as it is not meant to at a monument that all of this article. Now I I that you're I think agree I think that they took it might be a guide gives but the regular I. Took thirty years from now. The asked whether you're gonna be thought about it and I want it known that I had. Not to do well oh deficit George and you. But to wade and I guess I'm on his first night out with the girls that in the three and going out four and go out we strikes out. No pun intended with just think he gets us accused from Margo. But he does committed to go to dinner following it go out to dinner missile areas their first dinner together the first day I guess you call. Parts are talking about Ali too chicken. And he says that it is his hits in them tick and I think I called in the middle of the Yukon Cornelius. And and so. In debt and an Adams a guesses who reportedly drunk on wine does not called they had sex and yet Adams Adams says Anna Margaret Adams said adapt it to. The a somewhere wants to Marcus that that's one it's when you buy a box and 25. Margo I guess. Says that box had admitted cheating cougar Xbox and aired when it admitted cheating before he once got VD during spring training. Which it which it is and then. He you also I've got to her pregnant when he's in the minors in the woman's haven't mr. So I mean this was no surprise that Adams that blogs what they can play the fields work. So he travels to meet bodies on the road first road trip later that year in May. And this is packed this whole thing is just likes a really odd and funny. Boggs context against George Brett final local florist in the area so she can arrive to the rule with with fresh flowers or whatever. But he uses the clubhouse attendant to actually make the call. And Marcus says the but it's got blogs is kind of a mess but he's a great player he's making a lot of money. But let's face it he barely dressed himself you'd buy clothes warm and he's he's cut clubhouse attendants to do everything well I mean what bill. Back then is that the culture of the clubhouse attendants is to carry everything. While it is I am if you read the the book on Ted Williams. There's a lot of books and at Williams obviously. An and several of them talk about how OEU to have the quote about always you know basically. And all of its personal efforts. If term Google laundry everything out so I don't really think that much of surprise. That that these ball players were at least fact and very dependent on bad. You know one on our club house ways that not only run errands but obviously. You know idle saint. And let you know that would sort of one of the storyline this whole story broke what is. Here's the underbelly of baseball. And you know Jim Bowden had written ball for like twenty years earlier. And it was always this opposition at this that was going on in baseball. And and at least in my perspective this was really the first story I read that. That tied it spelled it out indeed you know about how it actually occur you know how that he'd covered for her line around. It obviously the details. And all that stuff and here it is what it is but it. You know it was a bit beyond. The bill lurid beat you know on. It was really interesting about how you know the other story was the complicity in the red. The organization. I know I mean it really if you gave you an idea of how. Core rock the underbelly of Red Sox organization was at that time. It reminds me of my own you know a good Feldman is in goodfellas where. No other that that the same exact guys are with Henry the way he is at his wife. And then next scene and resume his girlfriend's place in the same it was there yes yeah I mean it's it's like they see a hole like on most of limit themselves but. This is great and does his likeness of self promotion for penthouse but in the article. They talk about now. After they laughed box and Adams. Take out leave notes Adam Adams picks up a copy of penthouse magazine of course because. You know who would wanna just read it leisurely read copy and a magazine street the articles so well and so she throws her itinerary into the magazine. And then TC's Barbara to the airport Barca is in the plane and he just got a couple of them articles or magazine to read in the airplane because again celebrity should never be cut not mean pornography and their. So he takes the magazines. Really good issue as he takes Ali backed with house. And his wife Debbie. Not only quite a magazine insert three herself. And she. Could love is worse than a penthouse letter. She flips through it and in the itinerary to itinerary for a market that was balls adamant. And she sees that this woman named Margo and Pettitte and been in the same city with wade and a growing up she's handwritten Wade's hotel room. On the itinerary. And of course you know. That he's been calling so the next day at work Margo so it's getting phone calls randomly from. Kansas City you know these are the places and it's Debbie tracking her down so. Margaret it's freaking out she calls a Red Sox. And tells the club doesn't give when he heads up. That I think is why it's on to something and then wade confessed it was like the one thing really sorry whatever. But that if a few months later letter released with them again in ninety literally. He's with Margo there on the road. He's cleaning up the flight that companies can sweep supposed close throws in his bag mistakenly grabs her slip. Her sexy slim and again it is the eighties and sexy slit with a thing. So he grabbed that throws in the suitcase and again she finds it now he plays enough that another one it's been orient sorry it is kind of like the opener. And his wife still forgives. Honey. That's Arlington it witness. That spoke with it. The explanation to our wives buck it wouldn't it would go over well now that would be a second time because we probably wouldn't document. But it would not the way now. Beasley than the Ali knows all that it's all about. That you know it was kind of like. It any sport. You know you've in the back of the greats from back in the game and and you know they all it would be a gated and it was just got back there and again it was. Not that just this and I'll story but this whole side that was really. One of the first times that is the issue of you know ball players in any sport. And net institutionalized. Infidelity and all the stuff I mean isn't really. And terms of media in terms of the coverage is transformative moment because before this before this story. And before the lawsuit before the penthouse article. And the fact they you know it would just Margo. You know would just wait by had a mistress that flew on on the row wouldn't you know but but this story. Wait wait chief Scott talked about the at all. Almighty god that it shouldn't look and and that was really that that underlying thing you know what what she got pass the giggle about it. And all that. The different goofy dumping it would there was OK now we finally know what this guy really think of the bill this is ten and those aren't. Well continuance are. And any you know I mean it don't stop there about Ted Williams. And it was I mean Matt what's that people lost. It was the fact that this guy was cheating on his wife. Again it was just like whatever their marriage is between now it was you know would be ecstatic all our Don Mattingly and Pete Rose and Jim Rice. Stanley. Everybody out mean now was that was really the that explosive. That that would. Radioactivity of this story. Wasn't so much that this tax. On the infidelity. Walked out of the book full area surrounded it was. Here hit this guy talking about his teammates. And that was like 10. Yeah it's more immediate ice in front Stan. It was late pollution the red pill does and the and frankly I think. I think baucus spent the last thirty years trying to get past that. Agreed I can compare this to the first time. Since then probably Tiger Woods. And in his and they'll act. Is that it was it was that huge and I look he brought Mattingly is in the eighties. We compared Boggs to mentally Quinn was in nationally. But it was always bogs verse Mattingly and in the house in new York and bright bright so I'm curious to see. So I'm I've read some of the article Tom could mine mine mine penthouse copy wrecked in the eighties. But but I'm I'm hoping you're gonna tell me about these things is that the with that part respect it is in London Eye on the one hand on the so so. Yeah yeah you're right bill when he talked about. You start saying things about teammates and in kind of bringing things up some people's demands and we'll get into the ones he mentions blogs opinion on it. But she starts talking about there's teammates. That at one point in a bar this girl's sowed some girls and so drunks passes collapses on the floor in the bar. In the teammates including Barnes or are just laughing so hard. At her situation and the fact that her skirts all hiked up that instead of heat going for. For help or calling bird you know Placer semi automatic or somebody. There are taking bets of who can get the best look upper skirt as she passed out and then it was another random blogs. My guess joined Margo in weighed in the Dominican Republic that he calls. Where. Boxes for an performed oral sex on a six dollar price who did the guys picked up and so like it's not even so much that. The blogs of the team but then. It's the things like this that she starts you accused things up now George. What do you think wade. And embargoes favorite pizza. Was a repeat the topic was and why it was a double. Oh. I was just say it was her peace with double into. You believe that I even in its. I barbs at one point gave her at number 26 necklace that Agassi is the Wear and I guess that it needed to go to clubs because it was just like in goodfellas is clubs for the girlfriends and clubs for the wives. And Margo is always that at the if the club for the girls are very good fellas asked that really is. Adamant Boggs talked about having three some one point. And but I guess Adams rings for it to happen and then Boggs went out. And then Margot says in the interview that yes he probably would have we've that are chicken now does that work on into the ground. In an instant and 85 this is great too because of their a year into this. Wait wait is on a swamp. And ends up. Getting out of it would like for four for 41 day because they had phones acts. And so now whenever wades back goes cold literally he's got a caller for bodes phone sex when he's like maybe moment somewhere whenever it's pre Internet days man. I know but then the funny thing is he says that when she's with wade they never have sex in the morning. Because wade woods sex weakens last league easy if you have to risk was Mickey Iraqi and that's when they feel Merrick. Community and he. Took me out but it. Again Adams talked about when I think most people kind of bottom wade that he was really going to turn it he didn't care who wins and losses. All we care about his which makes sense it was it was career I'm curious on on on your opinion and that you know bill maybe you could sense that as part of the median and. Yeah I mean I think that was again. You know. It would already broke down at the World Series that she'd surprised people. And it seems act quaint and yet it was thirty years ago. But when you know that could be imminent that crappy it to a series like collision this guy actually Q at 01 right and its goal. I mean. I don't think we can understate. How is Allah was either of them all permit Nike says I've read a war and even Williams himself. I mean there are legitimate comparisons that had waves but this guy in terms of this hitting skills. And abilities every two strike pitches. You did so only time he struck out IV never struck out I never remember waived by striking out when it. But think about this not at all make pot. He's also a guy who always took the first pitch so he was always down 01 because they knew they wouldn't like he would lead the league in walks as well. I mean you know they have this bit Saber metrics. I mean you can look up as OPB and let them but. Just just the way that that that valued now vs the way it was about bad. I mean you'd be the most coveted player in baseball argument because it professional the highest paid player and everything and and you know that I mean I don't know what we're gonna burn yourself but you know I mean in terms of is is Korea. I mean that's not what this guy languish in the minus six years and Matt in an up in and of itself is like a baseball walk. Well so that I mean yeah he you know that part about this story about a block are remote and I definitely did. Especially. Especially when you know they acted out. For. Now. That they had their excuses and reasons but. It was a good night. I mean he would have. I think he would have gotten or could have gotten what about its. Eddie come up when he was 121 as opposed to 25 or would they hold on delaying. It is oracle tragedy. Were they holding his spot they are transferred. But don't carnahan's it was there basin. Because this was a damn good ballplayer he was on those Oakland John announced the end to be eighties but he and he's no wait body butter and then. There you know you wonder why they've retreated you know and other words I mean obviously blog would care to go work out at the silliness. But. You know they they they they kept him to act gal I mean that magic they had traded him war. In all a lights out closer 96. And are currently that they kept act in the and they clear threatened to penetrated burner it actually on it. And then in but I mean Bogle is also noted for not really. Adobe bench clearing brawl he was always the last guiding involved because you like injured he wouldn't go that's. Extra base for fearing it spiked again injured he was a big dude to it was a it was a small yes like you ran well and he was he was always made fun of for not being the best defender although he was. Regret what they do all the work and the guy. You guys are talking about. You know. I think for a for Stanton a certain age. In hell I think you know there's some of that that you always trying to get over. Not not just the you know mark wrote thing initially but but that hole. In old image of him as the meat for a ball player and and yet you look at him now I'd be grandfather he's also Amer. Even eldest statesmen so to speak him and he was there when they get the Ted Williams saying. It really is always asked me to be so much about him is the fact that he is. It is I mean I wouldn't say ease ease lights but he hasn't just the Stastny arc. And we'll get into it is the enemy but he's liking it a pop culture and which is which is strange. On that when you read this article there are things in here that are less frightening is there's a park where. Where Marco Adams talks about. The 86 ALCS in the courts it in and so he goes all the games because that's the plan out because the series. A pregnant Debbie Boggs is now during the team Rex deducted for her lap while. Is so. I'm Margot suits a couple of rows behind Debbie during the game during the games and at one point she actually because she's never seen before. Follows her to the restroom. And today with teams he would have in the Olympics is a rapist or his wife and published in Iraq. Poster to the bathroom. And then sees that she's like brushing your parent hearing goes opens in Britain accidents it's insane freaky thing like single white female preceded it have really creepy but. Adams says in the article that if read the route so much that she left the game at that point went home bawling crying. And then you know they make no reference the 86 series in the entire article and comments about the Mets that nothing specifically needs X series which paint the picture that maybe this really was just the baseball season thing that really was on the West Coast the talk about her being east of Kansas City. During the season. But. You know he continues affair and you know odd things about blogs being such a but he. Oh black cat alone. That's superstitious guy yeah that at one point she tells the story about how she told Bob that he went 55 most because that pace of the game. And it didn't turn him on that you Wear his game he thought of as deadlock so every times he would the what was gained after that he'd wanted to replace. Bombed not very hygienic and then it happens is and she's she has a friend actually does statistics and sits down and figures out that when wade. Wife attend the game any bats to 21 in which she did and the game that's three is that fantasy baseball fully. Think. They have a friend. Who's a stripper at to a member for and is a stripper in Cleveland. That the stripper in weak economy huge argument in Marcus is what what the hell's going on. In witness later that last time when you weren't here in Cleveland he took me at the wrong answer to give me a bloat up. And then we'd probably served the panic and goes well with the right out of you until there you know what we predicted is that she left that cinnamon stopped. Largo rips the necklace off the 26 Nicklaus or in his face but I guess ultimately forgive them. And you know in in four years have been together this guy these shared 64 road trips together corner. There again. I mean that's up. It it's fine it's opt out on and and sort of embarrassing I guess provide a browse. And play exactly. I mean exactly and any candidates aren't I mean meet currently. Well what you get past that I mean that's that's every guy. You know cheap non life for every guy with a girlfriend and her girlfriend. You know those that kind of universal. Studio situations where it. Warren when you're carrying night cross country extramarital affair happiness that happens. So you know for me it was like a while did this guy. Rip and Ted Williams I mean I mean I go right to that on any high ground. Now deployed in hundreds enemies out of these wrap up with a way to timeline kind of worked out and we'll get into some things he says about guys. Because it's amazing because that is the real headline grabber or not necessarily like you said bill. Some of the stuff because kind of expected that he can get these kids these guys are almost like a grown up kids. It was the first time we have either have. We will never heard of this happening. Right that you know as it could imagine like a load you know would you do if you were just as big overgrown boys got it would not educated and gazillion dollars in your pocket and no I'm bead on. Mario album sitting in orbit. It's a different that the rings during Israel's biggest TV there where it hit at it and it. During the S spring training 88 Adams canto learns through some other players that blogs is kind of go with some of the girls in different cities. But then it kind of really comes to a head in in cabinet released millions this is when blogs goes the film two years in Southern California okay. And he. Meets the Margo while he's there and he says you know what I must really love you Marc why would you say that. He's excited since the middle Kirstie Alley decided not to do it. Because it goes. Egos you know elbow by the waiting to borrow period panties like what it doesn't go to because I had a go at the Red Sox might my buddies. But I can have bad Kirstie Allen some at home it's it's her panties. It's in and in my Christiane is married time now. In so occurred Adams refuses and of course that is the point against her more moral fiber kicked him. Untimely errors so it was in July it is years Stevens of filing a palimony lawsuit six million dollars that later balloons up to twelve million dollars after Boggs has a couple of FBI friends trying. To the national bank. Later in the year and of members of this is after the World Series a judge rules that the the whole thing's gonna go to trial. That and ultimately as it turns out eleven point five million of the whole thing kinda gets thrown out and the remaining 500000. Margo wade settle out of court so what happens. Because Margo has gone on the Donahue CO. In gone and go public with this to a certain degree is she kind of pieces out who wants the story or think about. It in the magazine media which is pretty much dead business you know I got a sports or skip the other day I swear it was twelve pages we kind. You didn't fire her early oil and everybody scatter like Gary rightly belongs they've got a dual bloggers got to some sort of something online. Bomb in so she's you know goes out says who's who's my highest bidder penthouse magazine Bob Guccione who's made plenty of scandals press over the years obviously pays the biggest failure. Indians of getting Margo to come in and do this story in part of the story is Natalie is in a perilous money he's going to. Put her in the magazine so a year movies is getting hits to partner. And now this all the solids of happening. But when she appears at Donoghue shows he starts you know really this is when the first time to start talking about things. As far as what happens with players and in bogged players in the things you mentioned them on use I was staying bogs used to call delta force. When he had a player on the team the union like. He would get him into a situation get evidence that the minute situation point in appointed as she brings up in the magazine involves Bob Stanley. Who Boggs used to call mr. 411 because against just gossip too much about the Red Sox. And so. They set up Stanley to go back of the room with a stripper. And the stripper against naked bots in their when their gas. And it weighed in and I think it was Stapleton go to get the key from the front desk may break in and they sort of flash of pigs who is above sailing with does make it. Stripper and a course that. Takes care Bob Stanley avenue B. You know mr. 411 broke code man broke code exactly broke but let's go through some of the guys here that. Margo gives us our opinion obviously Vegas when the biggest headline grabber. And really shocked me as far as where we are as a kind of culture versatile everywhere in nineteen late 1980s and you think about that now on those thirty some years ago. Is Jim Rice so wade literally said to Mario Marcus that this. Jim Rice thought he was. Bill how does that carry network how how does that comment play in 2070. Well having to get the fact that you know 2017. That won the one thing that you mention that. Anecdote about a woman who passed out at the bar. An and how that went down I mean you know that that's a borderline. Criminal. Activity also in terms and terms of what we've done. Certainly in terms of how perceived Albert is out the thirty years ago I mean that was a throwaway line and that story. And 2017. I mean it would be a police investigation and that's assaults and read every every ball player. Who was associated with that would would either be suspended Angela. I've every it would get that that one take away. Would be the biggest take away of this scenario would would the issue of Powell and I'm sure whether there's just one person. How be you know treated. Woman in general and and that would be. Jet but I have we so that the flash point of all this in 2017. I mean it in the decade flash. Would be Jim Rice. Allegedly thinking that life. Big kid you know that we just in any sort of be at that time too I mean. Obviously things were still polarized it in 1988. And you know. What what. I'm having a mental block the Orioles center fielder. I'll me not mean Adam Jones and Jones. Adam Jones what would Adam Jones heard. Or that he heard a knee in center field on that night at Fenway running. That was common parlance that Fenway Park in 1988. So. Bad that would have been the other nuclear bomb that this would detonated. And that indeed killed. And all that out of step would have been would have been an odd story like this right wing would actually lead yeah that would have been the lead. Yeah I think the racing it would have been a bigger become a specific somebody did that was being named like at the bar. You're actually right as far as an act conduct that event but basically was over. You know this team namely year Sicilian name players. You know obviously obviously this thing that I think it would have been like it would have been a hue and cry but the right thing. Yeah I mean at me got to imagine that headline on the Internet well and so here's what's eight years it's really crazy though any time and it. Tom Brady mistress. On. Malcolm Butler on the knock like I think I I mean imagine that today Orlando and. Next race it's now. I'm not apartment but sound but so but he gets even worse with keeping the rice comment that he thinks he's wife. Was bad enough but then she goes on to talk about how she would pick on box asking him about the size is innocent whether it was a stereotypical. Stereotypical. Thing provide effort for rice and then boxes. Come back to this. Was that will black guys don't go a ban on women. So while I know that was that's what hero it's so it like it get it to get to worthless and AA so. The teenage thing collaborate. That. Collaborate to Adams. That. And they joked that you know the black eyes didn't have to banana women because of the peace past it looked like it didn't have to make up for them with that. And then with the basic that this is again penthouse magazine you're reading right so it's going to be certainly. And you know there there aging yeah that I he's edgy and I. But then they go right the next paragraph talks about. Wade being our car sorbo oral sex so she's basically saying in one sentence. It is if you do that it's because you're not well endowed in the next paragraph she's basically single wade had to be good so here there she is basically coming wade through the magazine. With these comments and then. Then she makes the comment that we get really good in deceiving her likes to get to this and stop I'll say and but then lastly on the last thing with the race that that I saw. Was that. Blogs that talked about how it made him uncomfortable when wind Jim Rice would get all around Margo. And that he she said he's the it was upsetting in a bad look for a white player to be seen in the black. Date. On the road trips and at the white players would tell Margo. That if they got caught the black woman on the road that their wives and ultimately we forgive them they never break up with them win if if it was a black woman cop mean what do you think and act. The market like Doug do. I mean I don't double it it just didn't make headlines be on him I think he's quite well that did. Well be because again it was a different side. His you know what we like that I've I'll be desperate swat Taliban. You know the productivity of past but this particular case. I mean net net very dip you know and an additive like he's an old lady cares if it old was I mean. Bit to have that kind of bad to me what was that rooted in I don't know what our Jim Crow did you grow up and if you have bad attitude. I laugh at the Cuba and frankly a lot of these woman would probably race. You know it and and part of the country when they were kids probably in the fifties and sixties you know could give it 1988 so you have a lot of you know. 2030 have good woman were born. And it's 56 eat at that I know they were probably rated parts of the country where segregation was still the more. So those attitudes. You know if you look at history evident not surprising. But it kind of disgusting and you know. Yeah as troubling to think that this was only thirty years not even thirty. I mean this is almost 1990 minutes on this this happens and yet just if I mean just the think the different reaction you would get these days it's his nine day. Later Alex. And not even it is not it is incomprehensible. So let's let's talk about some of the other folks he brings Abby talks about Dwight Evans. Being somebody who drank and partied too much. Kind of mild comment after we need to rise on Bill Buckner he called again and this is. Along with pulp fiction he calls bill elected Gibson he's had given up a long time ago launched Hampshire part of that as a reference to. The the ground ball to be up. Roger Clemens gets referred to as mr. perverts before he meets curt Henning. And that once Roger got married in this almost like another check mark on my act once Roger Clemens got married he never allowed the boys so. You're almost like Rodgers almost like thank you for complete netted the only Canseco said the same thing ever in his Brooke book. He didn't think anyone thought anything different Roger but I think it's funny that some guys almost got like. You know nice China. Of this as being interspersed. Considered him a devout Mormon. It never did any of the stuff according to. Margo Adams and in fact ESPN had said in this is young he's been the time has said this is one of the reasons why he won at a Boston was the whole way parks you know. But here's another. Travelers it was a big deal at I mean he. He wouldn't you know he was one of the few who actually let it be known he was genuinely upset about this because there was a party line. That it now. That aunt and her it was like disgusted by well it's not salaam. And you know at Indy you know has most people said the enemy. Yeah exactly it and and it looked at you know and it was kind of refreshing to peaceably with that reaction around on the boosters kind of plays. Yeah yeah yeah always an ignorance treat treat them well because of it right. You know I mean I think he was Billy. I don't think he was. I did today edited people it's not so so there's a lot of guys to a light that would genuine and in the way that they are in good for him. And good for experts are going to bed. That night and and wrap it up. Agreed did you hear anything bad about them now obsolete now but now so we are due we've covered some of the huge headlines that we beat today this one really surprise me. On she flat out says wade told there Jose Canseco was on steroids. And Canseco book Jews does not come out front of fifteen years and it's that blow up that senate's. Black balling players and in naming players naming names guys that are hurt Natalie suspected but that Canseco knows we're on steroids. The huge steroid is scandal that Iraq's baseball in the mid two thousands. Here in 1989. It is reported penthouse magazine from a very reputable source Wade Boggs that O Jose Canseco was on steroids and this. Sentence goes no way no how does that happen. It's a moment it is him. And that's and I had at that time. This story was ball player. Cheating on wife. Where it mistress who traveled with the guys that was the biggest story right. What exactly and so many issues warning if she's back out more concerned. And you know the steroid thing. Nobody even knew what you're worried and in 1988. Or 898. Or like he would make each German keynote in the Olympics. An and that was debt so that connection to baseball what in there and it wasn't a concern at what. But what was the big. What was the biggest Storey to two to three years leaders Jose Canseco is dating Madonna. You know so but that's how huge Jose Canseco wrote yeah gamble on baseball right. It. It it would no feel good stories about baseball and I mean the Kirk Gibson home run maybe when Ripken came back at the home run. That's and I don't think I'm basically broke the record but. The there was nothing good thing in baseball from. 89 ninety. So then barbs reportedly tells Margo Adams the kind of jokingly calls Keith Hernandez a homosexual. It when it comes to Ted Williams. He says Ted Williams the guy is a guy thinks he knows everything about hitting but does. And he makes a comment embargo about an 86 interview that they didn't Sports Illustrated were Ted. Wade Boggs and Don Mattingly were sitting down with Sports Illustrated. And Ted and Mattingly start laughing and joking about how they've both been able to smell burnt wood off a foul ball. And what's funny to me about this is that. During in 1999 all star game mikes picked up Williams talking to Mark McGwire on the field if you remember that bill. And down all up and end Willie an in box during this article says it that's foolish east for a shipment of the rap. Yes amazing and I mean yeah there are a lot in this story. That that that prefaced. Coming attractions sort of history Alexis gets to the media had yet it steroid. You had. Institutionalize. Is fidelity the race issue. That turmoil. And and corruption and corrosion within a Red Sox organization which. You know let's be honest wasn't purged. And parole you know and rebut that team I mean net debt and organization. I'm not you know not just with the racism. And and the cover up of that do paternal like activity by Dan Patrick. But it I mean it was just kind of an underbelly of Yale because it was a cry it was a family. I have a a one man one woman show it on our unit wife and there was just a lot of you know it wasn't clean so to speak and and a lot of that was was caught in this story. And you know the result in 1989 the team he didn't go so. Now. They won't they went from an L wedge into the division and a the play ought. To be good with no locker and so I think it was you know again with a with a different look different world in a lot of ways. And then and then you talk even about these certain into legal issues that she brings up blogs talking about making as much as 121000 dollars in cash. Go to some of these cards shows up and taken to angry at a finer Rolex and of course are reporting that and I don't know if the IRS can curious. Yeah they get right around that time they started really investigating him day in team out of grass and then this tock. Boggs mentions there that 90% of the autograph that came out of the Red Sox locker room phony and then by the ball boys. And that's if there's even a story about their dinner and one of the ball boys was at dinner some but he comes over an autograph in the kick and it goes reached the bongos which I do this. In box freaked out like the he would fare like it to us like Gatling elated letting us button on the magic works. On a lot of really it's interest and stuff about the wave women were treated here about. About these players. Activities with these different women but I mean another really points as to certain players on that shouldn't really worth breaking Kate they've. Yeah it really has a lot of breaking gave me. Com players that roomed together one would pretend to be sleeping while the other home had a girl on the bed but he miraculously wake up in the tag team her. Stuff like that it did you know it's like it's like look at behind the curtain but it sounds just like us. If it's only a slam and again as he's facing the loss at. If the guy ambler which you answer. The fact that it you know. The blogs at one point talks about how fine of his could teammates went and hired to a prefer night. In an Adams freaks out saying that you know at the statistics of hookers and in need like 22% Boggs kinda gets us. Ghostly look at his face thinking these are guys that don't tend to Wear condoms. You know blogs talking about as far Oakland look at the star awards party anyone can get laid there because it was just that complete monster show. But but it. And then getting just getting back regard to a couple more people apartment and first off one of the things that that was a distinct. Was Boggs and if you ever got close to 400 earth every got over 400 for batting average is another couple times we got that they every 89 it was a spin sees 162 games where you bat out of 400 from. From I think a July to a July right right right so. He said he told Mario that if I ever was late in the season I was over over a hundred I was gonna say it. I was gonna take an injury and sit the rest of the it was amazing to think about the way they're the weight the way Williams tackle that accomplishment. Going out and have been any talks about Pete Rose and Pete Rose was this such an idol for him toward Britain as well. Talks about oil camp void that was some comments that oil and yes some FBI friends knew him knew that he was being tried. Connections and they never do anything about it because as well when okay avoided Dennis Boyd was (%expletive) adopted that she's with us and that's a. The fight and he's but again it was a stink about it was that you think about that when he rented them porn movies. Saturday at the at a place that order when David and again and was. That was a front page. Like spring training. (%expletive) storm. When it went all out and rented Villa in a point came out that he rented entry movies at a at. Videos or and they actually had video stores warning him I mean it was a big deal that the Toledo browser history. Yeah with that bat with a mentality wise. Among the gallery that reporter who covered the team and among a lot of analysts. All while this is a big the other guys that are forward Corey outrageous outrageous. That I honestly think he's arm and a ball. Well being meanwhile in how we we have it to the movies can't develop better. Attitude toward. Would be black people and so with a lot of mid late. Anger a lot of displayed tanks. Back you know and in thirty years out no on the line. You look at this story and you think oh yeah. Wade Boggs Michael Adams but they ways. Other almost every issue. Bet that rattled baseball. Over the next twenty years was out of this story and want should be earned it and let's so that. That's really you know the debate debate take away at an immediate liking historical. There is a fascinating read and it really does it some historical document as 20. My god all the happen. I know it is it normally you'd look at and count likeness. And YouTube figure 01 person does that set the most of these are mean stories but. In to give the guy from penthouse credit he actually went in and found a lot of the the players in the players that you know what. If you've had a story I'll tell you one more in his blood truths and added there's a lot of truth and a lot of confirmations. On just the kind of wrap up some these things I do understand as far as drug. Pitches on drugs he did say about bugs to think what it's like couldn't I don't want some (%expletive) Coca throwing ninety miles per hour and a he had Elena had so than a than a month later we deal with that we're now doing with may the may issue. Penthouse magazine calls this the art article called realist choices that. Of a very nicely done. On and we see now naked pictures of Margo and so easy would weed dealing with now in fairness to wade I guess you can say it is it's five years after the start dating. She's not the most photogenic girl in the world there are some pictures that look like about ten years earlier that I feel like she insisted penthouse but in there. Of her slightly nude or whatever but she looks significantly. Eighties were a lot different in look via NFC NV wade was gonna hear you haven't done while while. It's as though I'm. So then. Articles that's stupid to really talk about except for the fact that Margaret does say she one time once went Stephen wade with the is this right but the guy by god is it to authorities he had the goods to keep the go. What it's up and bit. And this is OK so let us we we cover all that the one last thing it really shocked at this whole thing with Sports Illustrated does an article in their mart's march 6 issue. March of 89 cover story as the Mad Magazine tag line what. Be wary you know the Alfred. I cannot believe in reading it when a puff piece putts half past the post piece post as puff piece piece that was. A really tough to think. Because they they've really focused a lot more on Clemens and his new contract is seven point five million dollar pitcher. On a focus on the troubles in with a million players what are they doing they really count us out. You in the box situation never bring up anything. To create beauty they politely brushed over the comments he made about your race. Jim Rice knee reacts to appease the American read that take place and he said you know babies at the net. Later that that might hear a spirited out like. And that. It was a free. Oil and delayed. Says it boxes sex mean need to psychiatrist thing completely out Aggies like this ruling by the volume is one thing that a lot. It's it there's not into the Canseco allegations first there is no mention. But just the entire animal house atmosphere these guys because let's face it. The writer of this article Ian would probably files these guys probably knows a lot more it's not printed. But on top of that when a public park right. You're the second floor outside that state because you know happy in the hallway there. Every Sports Illustrated cover features the Red Sox in shirt off what is right fair is it. Just like it's no big deal it's the talking about a franchise. Whose players are. Having race problems they're having marital infidelity problems rod problems with things and slapped up there like those things back if you go on line. You'll find some sign Wade Boggs. This issue is one of the easiest thing with a fine realtors certified issue. Wade decides at the C a penthouse that it does the capital again this. But again though you figure that Sports Illustrated tests covering this with Cuba. Well yeah that that thing about that Clemens. Line will when he did an interview with Mike range. Right and you are not about old people better leave me alone bought Tibet leave me alone. That was in a moment a bigger story yeah I bought and I actually remember writing. About bad interest some reason I used the line. Katie or Clemens is only crime would inability is speaking complete sentences. And you know conceded that liability with with Michael issue you know again this is 1988. The C news agency who's happy aged eight. People into people any and it's time. And ended what is this what how we got. Our sports news was the 6 o'clock and 11 o'clock. Channel for channel five channel seven Nat how there was no. I mean net injured aired the ball game at that time there was no Comcast. It was nothing so when when Clemens what rob I would Mike which it was a big review revealed it was my clients Bobble Miller Don Imus. It was those yeah he made it complete ass out of himself in an interview and basically. Called out this city. At least that's the way it sounded at the end of a rebel watching it and and enact these people lopped more than and wade bought. Two in a row at market web because you know we don't have it we could have thirty years. Out reflection in the history what in the moment we had this article about this woman that the Red Sox facilitated. And and fool around the country that weight boxes Shaq cannot put on the road. We had new pictures governor magazine. And or by accident might yet end and it was OK wait Mike said these are hoping to buy it he made. What that he may have to say about it houses and affect the ballclub and the bottom of the little Roger Clemens goes on television. And not talking about all. Arm yet you people go to leave me alone despite black and. Yet and that I like the one guy who trumps. Cost as far as celebrity status back then I mean you know Larry Bird bird ready as far as the reds went and but he SOU it's interesting it's it's it's just a wild. Scenario and go back and if you chance the system to at least read the Sports Illustrated version of this and just see how was very interesting. How they they took a look at this entire thing a guy so let's wrap this up. On you know Boggs did make an appearance with Barbara Walters and kind of confronted this even though the Red Sox police said please don't just. But he wanted to get in front of it and his wife Debbie went on the Barbara while Walters on bubble while our. On 20/20. 20/20 and down and it and then this article came out where where you know blogs and it tried do. Pace and on he got this spring training early that year and and it really did kind of take a little of the pressure off I think is he was little more open. And I think people would have thought he would it be time although the guy from penthouse actually suggests he's gonna get it treated because most buyers think he has a spending four more years that the Red Sox. Couple quick notes on Boggs. Boggs cal Ripken and Joseph Morgan. Three people that took place. Took part in the the longest baseball game played thirty putts and get him a target of Rochester. On Boggan blogs actually I didn't when he first inning in his teammates were pissed if that particularly. Others like three UT game it was 32 innings if they're two innings. The ability mentioned earlier boxes all sorts of bitter about the six seasons he spent the minors for being called up I guess this is a real bone of contention that. He constantly complain Margo. And the eighth and another good thing little factoid. Is that part of this bizarre relates to the court handing mr. perfect yes fame. On who he met back in 83 and inducted him posthumously. In off name in 2007. But the two haven't gone hunting I guess in 2001. Read the story to bachus like cut his arguments like or something. Barb wire fence. Hitting not panic and from over shoulder got to back to the car drives in the hospital in this is like from from bleeding out. An end you know they have to mr. perfect vignettes. That's not it became friends so although I guess there were friends back in 83 but they had done these vignettes in perfect would do with a golf and where you make a fifty foot putt in the delicate. Pass while reading half court justice so all these things happen if you just go that's perfect. And baseball highly doesn't what Boggs but it wasn't until it was three years later again to and I wonder if that got postponed due to that. Do the scandal because you're Inspiron one nothing do with it one last Boggs. Thing to mention that certainly everyone's familiar with the 64 years that cross country flight and I know. Charlie what's his name from I was in the Philadelphia set on the that it was a hundred something Beers did bonds really claims and drink but he's the only guy whoever appearance years the Simpsons in the great softball episode. And it's always a vehicle office on how is that. For pop culture right ultimately meant guy royalty rate offensive. Iowa gonna wrap this one up LA final comments on minister won mr. chicken Wade Boggs and so. I mean the guys who were just hall of Famer and he would no doubt clean. They'll give master and that's a very big of a cop in accomplishments. As a ball player and a hitter. I think grow exponentially more precedent. And it's unfortunate that you know this is kind of is tag line but he's had the benefit of time. Any added benefit of good will he's had the benefit of our folks that you know weren't aware of bit in his past. But I I got to believe that it at that that he probably thinks it's an issue that kind of in his background. But you know he he also. Ate they guy it and number retired but it in debatable. What else. When we did talk about a whole controversy returned to sell his hall of fame plaque hat. Number that's of the honorees. But you know that it I'll bet that at that thing with this guy it is. I mean that that sort of is. What also made a great play. That he was always in caught on art and com back he was all week. Fighting he was all these. Like you know people talk about Brady with a chip on racial that that guy Adam pocket bowler shall enter it and and it manifested itself and the fact that he put up these ungodly numbers. And it not his fault that image Edmund committed issues together. And it helped ensure all the you know had a at shell shock the second war out. And you know he got it on to block his credit he got a title with BAT's. It was a nightmare that time. But looking back it still might nick who was a but at least at least we got to rank but he was given a horse that kills. Yeah yeah well OK you know what. Maybe that was his last lap on on out it does look from right and one on on his mistresses. Well you know it's funny I was at weighed by accident when they retired his number. And they it was like a polite applause people he's still. Not a beloved guy he easily tell he's respected certainly for what he's done it and you make you really good point back that he did it day. In an era where it was reduced error and he went to object. But nobody ever. Talked about him like a Charlie hustle tied for. Where somebody like that or that was left in the city he's not yet that's perfect please put pocket he sees no one of those Red Sox that it. One of those now one of our Red Sox that we're gonna go down you know to our grave saying oh you know what we. Yelled we saw one of the Reyes is ultimately bonds but he wasn't the one of our favorite Red Sox. Well the thing about bought this is he's got. He'd get Ivan on his side he's not all. And he appeared to be in great shape physically I mean he seemed like they had a guy that can lead to B nine B. So you know maybe twenty or thirty years from now. If he continues that the deal would eat it would now in terms. Making himself you know kind of a legendary. I mean eventually get beat through time he's gonna end up being a resident living legend. You know like yet has become a resident living legend Edwin resident living what could be in the joke krone before him. Eventually just because of time that that at heavyweight bought. You know if he'd played that right. You know he may end up being beloved. Just by virtue of the fact it people will take another look at it and what he did for the red are the numbers he put up. And the fact that he was a victim of history. As were so many of those other guys. You know no one talked about in 2004. When they talked about all we we want it stored for Johnny Pesky we wanted to protect Williams. And the guys to why haven't don't wanna know what are about hey we won the wade bought the odds are I'd want that that he's been. Capitol Hill every credit 1986 like direct. Right club release are all points well taken I think that now unfortunately with well on course for box. The like I said in kidnappings of love the fact that Pedro is beloved despite his up Peter ray pointers. Obviously Ortiz is wildly beloved. He's I think Boggs that we kind of I don't think he'll ever reached that status as or at all or Ted did. But at the same time I am glad that he's been brought back there is no place for him I let yeah I agree I like the fact that Clinton's been brought back in the full. And I do think that there is a place for them so let's go ahead and wrap this one out. On a bill Spiro soot from the Boston Herald at real OB ST obnoxious Boston fans on Twitter built thanks so much for joining us in making Europe. The Buick Open and begin soon. It sure I would leave my wife as pat who beat a big test out a I don't ago late July woman. You'd hear the great what Madeleine dedicate agree so be menace it's the holy life. Amy Amy will be met Amy O'Meara just dedicate Asia also they. But lately is all BS yeah. He didn't get past so it during the taping she died of starvation I thought at a price. I the we're keeping it on Thursday night. 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